I got a friend  that goes by the name of BurntOutBill. He's a hard drinking, partying plummer from Queens, NY. Since the devastation he's been at "ground zero" every day. I interviewed him tonight, if you can call it an interview. Mostly I just tried to let him tell the story, because what he's been living through you're never going to see on CNN.   DrT

Burntoutbill: Lets do it 
DrT: if you're tired we can do it tomorrow 
Burntoutbill: nah I'm ok 
Burntoutbill: I'll be more tired tomorrow 
Burntoutbill: go for it 
DrT: How'd you get asked to volunteer? 
Burntoutbill: but be nice I got no beer 
Burntoutbill: I wasn't asked 
DrT: oh shit 
Burntoutbill: as soon as I heard I was there 
Burntoutbill: been sober cents it happened 
Burntoutbill: your turn 
DrT: What was it like when you first hit "ground zero"? 
Burntoutbill: it's really hard to explain what it was like............. 
Burntoutbill: I saw shit on the news and all................... 
Burntoutbill: but when I first got to ground ZERO......................... 
Burntoutbill: all's I could do was stand and stare...................... 
Burntoutbill: speechless, as my stomach hit my asshole! 
Burntoutbill: .............. 
Burntoutbill: I worked on some of those buildings..................... 
Burntoutbill: I was on the crew of 7 world trade as it went up!............... 
Burntoutbill: when 7 world collapsed the next day, I was deeply touched, even though there was no one in it! 
DrT: How close were you to 7 when it went down? 
Burntoutbill: this interview hurts me................. 
Burntoutbill: but it will probably help too! 
DrT: I know. Just talk bro 
Burntoutbill: I was about 3 blocks away when 7 went down 
Burntoutbill: working on the south tower 
Burntoutbill: I'm starting to cry dude 
Burntoutbill: but go ahead 
DrT: take your time.......... 
Burntoutbill: no go ahead 
Burntoutbill: they made me see a psych today 
DrT: tell me about the other workers that were there with you? 
Burntoutbill: we all have to, mandatory 
Burntoutbill: when I first went in, it was only iron workers allowed!..................... 
Burntoutbill: I was the first plumber there, then two good buddy's showed up, and an electrician we all know.............. 
Burntoutbill: they said they were only taking in iron workers, and they were checking unions cards to prove it................ 
Burntoutbill: but we decided....fuck that.....and got on their bus anyway!.......they can't tell us no!!!!!!!!!......we had friends and family in there 
Burntoutbill: on Wednesday, they day after, we went in only to find that the National Guard was there............. 
Burntoutbill: not letting anyone join in the search 
Burntoutbill: so after about 30 minutes 
Burntoutbill: I said fuck this............. 
Burntoutbill: and told my partner.......... 
Burntoutbill: you want to go in? 
Burntoutbill: and he said yes but they ain't gonna let us!................... 
Burntoutbill: at the time, no one knew what to do, we all stood there mesmerized at the site of it all................... 
Burntoutbill: so I broke ranks and my partner followed.............. 
Burntoutbill: the other two plumbers....my partner was the electrician, a good guy named Joe!,............. 
Burntoutbill: followed us in!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Burntoutbill: then the iron workers came in.............. 
Burntoutbill: followed by the NY firemen............. 
Burntoutbill: followed by the NY police dept............. 
Burntoutbill: followed by anyone standing on the outside! 
DrT: no one tried to stop you? 
Burntoutbill: we made a hell of a dent in the debris, that was out across the street 
Burntoutbill: yeah the National Guard did, but they knew they couldn't stop us, and also that we knew what we were doing! 
Burntoutbill: we got a lot accomplished 
Burntoutbill: we broke inside the street to ground zero 
DrT: Everybody sees the shit on TV, but what can't we see? 
Burntoutbill: you see nothing on tv!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Burntoutbill: press ain't allowed in 
Burntoutbill: the only pics you see.......... 
Burntoutbill: are ones takin from far away on a zoom 
DrT: tell me about it? 
Burntoutbill: ok 
Burntoutbill: you really want me to explain it to you?????????????? 
DrT: yes 
Burntoutbill: there are a lot of people on this earth that are going to hell 
Burntoutbill: the only difference between me and them is................. 
Burntoutbill: I had a preview! 
Burntoutbill: and that's being polite 
DrT: don't be polite 
Burntoutbill: in the last 5 days I put in 60 hours 
Burntoutbill: today I had to go back to work.................. 
Burntoutbill: I have bills to pay to.................. 
Burntoutbill: but I was right back after my work day and still gave another 5 hours 
Burntoutbill: I have to be polite in respect to those who lost lives................ 
Burntoutbill: and those who lost their lives 
Burntoutbill: there is no explanation 
DrT: I understand 
Burntoutbill: you can't describe it............................. 
Burntoutbill: the psych I saw today needs a psych to help her after what she heard from us today 
Burntoutbill: let me put it this way..................... 
Burntoutbill: after it happened there were bodies and body parts everywhere.............. 
Burntoutbill: we had to clean that up................ 
Burntoutbill: not knowing if it was the part of someone we might have known!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Burntoutbill: you try to explain that? 
Burntoutbill: and in the days that followed it only got worse 
Burntoutbill: and is getting worse every day as we get closer to the core 
Burntoutbill: your turn 
DrT: my turn? shit 
Burntoutbill: think how tough it is for me to rehash this 
Burntoutbill: I'm trying my best to forget!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
DrT: So you were there tonight? how are the workers feeling? 
Burntoutbill: the workers are heart broken!!!!!!!!!!............... 
Burntoutbill: as are the firemen and cops on the scene............... 
Burntoutbill: every time we think we have someone............. 
Burntoutbill: we get our hopes up, only to be brought down unhumanistically 
Burntoutbill: was that a good word? 
Burntoutbill: if it was ........................ 
Burntoutbill: it still doesn't even come close to explaining the mental anguish we are going through 
Burntoutbill: it really sucks at ground zero.................. 
Burntoutbill: many have come to help.............. 
Burntoutbill: and couldn't hack it............... 
Burntoutbill: many have come to help and still can't hack it, but stay, like myself, because we know it has to be done! 
Burntoutbill: your turn 
Burntoutbill: I stopped crying 
Burntoutbill: I'm real angry again 
Burntoutbill: our moods switch like that 
Burntoutbill: at any second 
Burntoutbill: ridiculously 
Burntoutbill: we're are all fucked up now mentally 
DrT: I really don't have anything else to ask, and I know you don't like this. But I'm damn proud to call you a friend. You, the cops, the fireman and all the volunteers show those mother fuckers what we're all about. 
Burntoutbill: thank you DrT,................. 
Burntoutbill: I really didn't want to do this............. 
Burntoutbill: but it is better to tell about it and reveal feelings than to hide them!............. 
Burntoutbill: I will never be the same after this......never!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
DrT: I think it's important that people know that what's going on is more than the big pile of rubble they see on TV. 
Burntoutbill: exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Burntoutbill: and......................... 
Burntoutbill: this political correct bullshit has just gone out the window!........................... 
Burntoutbill: people in the U.S. now see that it doesn't matter what is said, as long as we can all get together and work as one in times of sorrow..................... 
Burntoutbill: we have people of all nationalities, except Arabs, helping out at ground zero............... 
Burntoutbill: and we all laugh and call each other dago's mic's spic's nigger's and such.................. 
Burntoutbill: but we all work together and for the first time in I don't know how long, it doesn't matter how you talk to each other, as long as we're all Americans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Burntoutbill: DrT, and anyone who reads this................... 
Burntoutbill: remember this........................ 
Burntoutbill: you only get the respect you give................. 
Burntoutbill: and name calling means nothing!.............. 
Burntoutbill: that's how knick names started............... 
Burntoutbill: so throw this liberal bullshit out the window and realize that WE are all ONE NATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Burntoutbill: and nobody can fuck with US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DrT: What are you going to do? 
Burntoutbill: I'm going to work in the morning 
Burntoutbill: and going back to the Trade Center afterwards. There is a lot to be done 
DrT: How about tonight? 
Burntoutbill: tonight I'm going to put my face in my pillow and cry 
Burntoutbill: so no-one can hear me 
Burntoutbill: I've been ruined by this dude 
Burntoutbill: and like I said before 
Burntoutbill: I had my preview of hell 
Burntoutbill: It don't get any worse 
DrT: You'll over come it dude. The whole country will. 
Burntoutbill: Yo T, thanks for interviewing me 
Burntoutbill: you let me get a lot off my chest 
Burntoutbill: it still hurts..................... 
Burntoutbill: but at least I got to talk about it. 

We use the word "hero" a lot in this country. Maybe now we can start to understand what that word means. DrT

 

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